The Lucky Titan

Developing a Bulldog Mindset to WIN in Business and in LIFE With John Sonmez

February 26, 2021 Josh Tapp
The Lucky Titan
Developing a Bulldog Mindset to WIN in Business and in LIFE With John Sonmez
The Lucky Titan
Developing a Bulldog Mindset to WIN in Business and in LIFE With John Sonmez
Feb 26, 2021
Josh Tapp

John Sonmez “retired” at the age of 33 after reaching financial independence through the Bulldog Mindset he currently teaches on his YouTube channel with over 250,000 subscribers. John went from a nerdy, lazy and shy software developer to a successful business man, WSJ best-selling author and ultramarathoner by developing a stoic mindset, mental toughness and cracking the code of masculinity. He currently is building an army of strong men through his Bulldog Mindset community and teaching men how to get what they want out of life: financially, physically and in their sexual relationships with women.

Show Notes Transcript

John Sonmez “retired” at the age of 33 after reaching financial independence through the Bulldog Mindset he currently teaches on his YouTube channel with over 250,000 subscribers. John went from a nerdy, lazy and shy software developer to a successful business man, WSJ best-selling author and ultramarathoner by developing a stoic mindset, mental toughness and cracking the code of masculinity. He currently is building an army of strong men through his Bulldog Mindset community and teaching men how to get what they want out of life: financially, physically and in their sexual relationships with women.

Josh: What is up everybody, Josh Tapp here again and welcome back to the lucky Titan podcast and today we're here with John Sonmez and he is the founder and CEO of Bulldog mindset this guy, really I heard his interview a couple years ago and in a different company that he had owned, and seeing just the change in him even from in two years and coming into just such an incredible business helping men to really become men, right? take on the role of a man in their life and, and you know, yep, so financially, spiritually, sexually, so they can live just an amazing lifestyle. And I'm really excited to have him in here today to share with us about really some mindset tactics, where most of you, you know, you come into the show to really learn how to scale or take your business to that next step and 99% of the time, it's because we get stuck in a mental barrier and I think that's really going to be kind of the core concept of this this interview today. So, John, say, What's up, everybody? Let's hop in, man.

John: Yeah. Hey, everyone thanks for having me Josh, I'm excited to get started here.

Josh: It's gonna be a blast. So John, I do have a my first question for you is like, what was the transition for you because you have a pretty unique story, you know, from coder, to a guy who's like jacked and has good mindset, you know, not that all coders aren't that way but I'm really I'm really curious.

John: Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of different periods of transition, right? I think that you're you always have to be growing in life and so there's these like periods of time where you're where you're, you're kind of underground and it doesn't feel like anything's happening and then you kind of re-emerge, and you come out as a new person, if you're, if you're nurturing if you're, if you're getting that growth that you need that, you know, in order to do that and so for me, it was there was multiple ones of these, you know, everything from when I was really young, being very shy, and being this dorky kid that was picked on in high school and, and then you know, getting to the gym and starting to lift weights and changing, mostly my external, right having this, I remember having this idea in my head of why not me, and I thought, and that was really powerful and that sort of helped me through the rest of my life, if I didn't have all the changes there I didn't quite grasp it all but that one thought of why not me, made me realize that if anyone else can do something, then I can do it it's just a matter of choice and so I started acting as if I was already the person who I wanted to become and I started this, creating this vision in my head of who I wanted to be in the future and I started pretending like I was already that person,  that was one of the key transformations at that point and a lot of that still, you know, at that early stage was very external in transformation because even though I had this concept, it was it was this the secret that I had unlocked that allowed me to transform myself, but I was doing it for external validation, I was doing it before the approval of my peers, I was doing it to get validation from women at that time and in so it didn't really stick right but the idea stuck. And then later on in life, you know, as that kind of fell apart, and I got a job as a software developer and, you know, I was still had a lot of a lot of stuff to work on in life, I wasn't that I didn't have any kind of really presence, I was still very shy, still lazy to some degree and I got to this point where I got out of shape and I kind of ballooned up and I was, I remember going to the store and buying the size 46 pants and that was the point where I realized john, you're fat, you know, and I, and I couldn't deny it, I'd realized I had had all these justifications in my head, and I kind of had this other really powerful thought, which was that everyone kind of thinks they're going to be a rock star so everyone kind of thinks it's just gonna work out, they're gonna become rich, they're gonna come famous, they're gonna get the girls are gonna get the car, whatever but you only really have this one life and if you're not taking steps in action to do that, you're not going to get any of those things It's not just gonna magically happen someday and that, that hit me like a ton of bricks and that's where I got back in shape. I completely started changing my mindset started reading a lot of books, on personal development, got introduced to Tony Robbins, and that really changed a lot of my perspectives, started looking into stoic philosophy that changed some perspectives, and I lost all that weight I got in really good shape, started running marathons right, I started my businesses at that point too and, and, you know, it was just just so many things that were happening in that same time period I had retired young, that was my goal, I had been doing real estate investment and I actually retired and I went to Maui to live for two months and I just sipping my ties on the beach and I couldn't stand it was the most depressing point in my life ever, having achieved my financial goal and I realized this really important concept, which was that it's your goals, if your goals are about what you can get, or what you get, you will be disappointed but your goals need to be about who you become and that was a major shift and that's really where Bulldog mindset started to come from I started actually pursuing and running marathons at that point and really got into the start looking into masculinity and why it is that that certain guys like myself at that time at that point in my life, I didn't feel like a real man, I just didn't, didn't feel like I felt like there was something missing, missing and there wasn't, you know, we don't have these rites of initiation that we used to have back in the day where we're men become men and so I started really researching that really started trying to go on my own journey and, and that was kind of the biggest final transformation that that's happened so far is I came out of that, almost a completely different person, right? In the sense, like, if you even if you look at my YouTube videos, like physically, I look fairly the same, but my mannerisms, my voice changed, it completely changed on its own, all of these radical transformations happen in my, in my persona and then that's where it kind of Bulldog mindset came from and I realized that this was something that I needed to teach other men because it had impacted me so much so that's kind of the the short story of all the transitions and transformations has brought me up to this point so far.

Josh: Well, I love the story because I mean, the reality is, as entrepreneurs, we can relate at many different stages of that journey you know, I, I know, you know, even being I was a scrawny kid as well and I joined sports and things like that, just so that I could stop being known as the twin kid, you know, but it still didn't go away and it but things like that were just what I think kind of motivated me to start getting accomplishment and finding, finding accomplishment, other things. And I think, you know, with your story, it's just so unique in the sense that, I mean, you're, you were able to take it and instead of just giving up on it, that you were able to pursue it, you know, further and kind of push it so much further and I the point that was the highlight for me of that entire story is the fact that you hit financial freedom, but you still were like, now what, and a lot of people are listening to show are probably sitting in that exact same space because there's, there's comes a time in your life where you're like, I think I'm about God, everything that I need, you know, I have quite a few things that I want, I'm pretty good but then it really has to shift. So I want to really delve heavily into that mindset and into your framework for helping people to change that because it is it's, it appears to be a really hard thing to do but it seems like you've kind of like cracked the code and like how to help people shift that mindset quickly, and change their trajectory.

John: Yeah, I mean, that's a tough one It's one that I've struggled with, like teaching people for for quite some time because I do believe after, after everything I've, I've gone through and talk to people and tried to teach this concept that that to some degree, you have to experience this on your own right, I believe that having a good guide to help you along the path, right. So maybe if someone's listening to this podcast, and they hear, they sort of know, okay. This guy said, and, and I've heard other people say that when you become financially successful, when you become financially free, or whatever it is, or you get all the girl, you know, get the hot girl or you have that access to that lifestyle that that you like, whatever it is those, those things that we have, they're like, yeah, if I could just get that, you know, then then I would be that, you know, I heard this and and this guy said this, and so I'm kind of prepared for what's what's going to happen even though I don't believe him right? Because you know, it's funny, I have one of my YouTube videos, I'd said in there I was like, Oh, I don't want to win the lottery, the lottery would be like winning the lottery would be one of the worst things that could happen in my life and I said, really? Like if someone gave me $10 million? I would, I would turn it down I wouldn't want someone to give me $10 million I wouldn't. That's why I wouldn't want to win the lottery and my comment section was full of BS BS. No, you're, you're full of crap. Are you I would want I would want I wouldn't be like that like, I don't know what's wrong with you, you know, like, and everyone was kind of saying that, you know, that the day they would see things differently and you won't, you won't, it will be bad, you know, because one, I think really important thing to understand that that's just so critical in life, is that you, you know, you you don't you're not going to enjoy what you didn't earn right? But what you don't feel like you and that and and again, like if you kind of look at that it's not that like if you're successful financially that you didn't earn it It's just like this, this idea that why is it that I only want what, what is mine right? That's one mantra that I have I only want it what is mine I've only want what I've what I've earned, right? And why is it that that's true the reason why that's true is because in reality like the thing that makes us happy the thing that makes us fulfilled in life is it's not any of the material things that you know getting, getting the money getting the girls getting the cars none of that stuff it's, it's really it's putting in the work it's a hard day's work right when you really think about what when you when you felt the most not happy but fulfilled like, like just that that satisfied feeling like just you know, it's a job well done that that's what it is and and the reason why is because we all Want to be growing we want to be growing as a as a human being and so, you know, so it's really like making that mindset shift to think about. again, like I said, a lot of people are making their goals, they're setting goals on, what, what can I get, right? So when people say, Oh, my goal is to make a million dollars this year, or whatever, I'm like, first of all, it's a bad goal, because you don't have direct control over it right? You can't control if you are making a millio, like make a goal that you have direct control over, right? If you said, I'm going to get on the phone, and I'm going to do 20 sales calls every day, that may make you a million dollars this year, that's maybe a good plan that's a goal that you can actually achieve, because you have control of it like I don't want to make goals that I don't have control over and then the second thing that's wrong with that kind of goal is that again, it's about what you get so what happens now, when you reach that million dollars, are you now is your life perfect and happy you know, what's most likely going to happen is that you've built this thing up in your head to such a large degree, and you've made it your purpose and your mission in life and as soon as you reach it, now it's gone, and you've lost everything you've been fighting for in life, it seems like it'd be a good thing but, but what actually made you happy what actually made you fulfilled and in brought you fulfillment was actually fighting in and shooting towards that goal and so instead, to have a goal about what you can become, is is way more important so for example, last year, I set a goal for myself to run to train for 100 mile race, an ultra-marathon and a lot of people said, Well, why would you do this? John, this isn't like, what do you are you? Are you going to win this race? You're gonna make money from this? And like, no, there's, um, 240 pounds, you know, guys that are running ultras are like 140. There's, there's no way like, I can't even be close to too fast like, what was you're trying to lose weight? I'm like, no, not, it's, this is not a good way to lose weight, trust me, like running a lot will make you really hungry, you have to eat a lot to sustain their goal, it's certainly not going to be best for your health and yeah, it could you could die doing something like this It's not, it's certainly putting a tax on your system It's not not the most healthy thing but the reason why I did it was because I wanted to become the guy who did it, because I knew that by setting that goal, and then going through that process, it I would become a different person and that's the direction I want to go so I see goals and I think really, the mindset shift here is looking at goals, not in terms of destinations that you need to get to in order to get something but more as directions, you know, I set a goal somewhere in order to move me in a particular direction that I want to grow in life and if you set goals that way, then you know, two things will happen. One is that when you reach the goal, you won't think it's the end and you won't feel that sense of depression that we all do when we reach our, our goals met many times and second, you always have another goal that because you know, if you're trying to go this direction, you know what the next step is, right? And that, that progression of steps doesn't seem pointless anymore, because you're actually doing something you're growing a lot of people they're getting to this point where like, well, I don't know, I guess I should set my goal at this and they set a goal for another higher thing and, and they they just do it out of I don't know what to do anymore whereas if you if you know that your purpose in setting goals is to grow yourself in certain directions, then it's really easy to set those goals.

Josh: Yeah, and I love that because it's it's about the trajectory, right? It's the direction you're heading instead of, you know, just, just try to set set the goal, I was actually really intrigued by the fact that I can make a million dollars isn't, isn't a good goal, I'd like to kind of pick that pick that apart because I have kind of been feeling that same way at the end of the year, I usually take a week or two and this year was about 10 days, where I just get away, it's me and my wife, we go out and we just have a vacation and I take the time to set goals for myself and kind of realign my life and this year, I was like, you know, I'd really like to pass the million dollar mark in our company and it was one of the things where I was sitting there and I'm like, that's just it just feels like a goal, you know, just because it's so I almost want to say a cliche. You know, everybody's like, Oh, I want to I want to pass the million dollar mark but it is quantifiable but it actually doesn't really fit into the smart goals things I want to ask you a little bit about that like how you recommend people actually tailor those goals and tweak them so that they be they become a more successful goal. 

John:  Perfect, yeah so I hate the way that people said goals today and the way that every seminar teaches setting goals, because it's absolutely ridiculous because setting goals that are things that are beyond your control is asinine. It doesn't make any sense to me at all right? It's like throwing a dart at the dartboard. Maybe you hit it, maybe you don't hit it. You can do things that are going to move you towards that direction, but it's arbitrary at the end of the day, right? Now, you can have a number so let's take let's take the I'll give you an example of me of me setting a goal because I have a framework for this right and so, at one point, when I was growing my YouTube channel, when I was just starting out, I had maybe like 300 or 400 videos on the channel and I had, I don't know, like 20,000, 30,000 subscribers or something like that and I said, I really want to have 100,000 subscribers on my channel, right? And so I, what I now that's not a good goal, okay, because I don't have direct control over getting 100 out, there's nothing I can do, that will guarantee I'll get 100,000 subscribers, I can't make it happen It's it's someone else's, it's outside of my control its results, right? You know, I can't control that thing, right so what I what I call that what most people call goals, I call it an aspiration so I have an aspiration to get 100,000 subscribers on my YouTube channel so then from there, then I say, okay, from that aspiration, what goal Can I set, that will give me a 99% chance of achieving the aspiration, then it's a subtle difference here but the whole idea is that I can't control getting 100,000 subscribers, but there is some goal that I can make, that will give me a really high probability of achieving the aspiration and the rule about the goal is that has to be something I have direct control over, right. So I don't have direct control over people subscribing to my channel, I do have direct control over how many videos I make if I call people if I tell people to subscribe to my channel, I all those things, right? So what I did is I looked at a bunch of YouTube channels, and I said, Okay, I don't see anyone who has 2000 videos on their channel, who doesn't have at least 100,000 subscribers so I said there, there's my goal, my goal is to make 2000 videos on my channel in the next two years and then and then within those two years, I should have 100,000 subscribers, it's 99% chance because there's no one else on the on the internet who has done this, who hasn't, hasn't gotten that aspiration and so I broke that down so then my next level after the goal is is a process so it goes aspiration goal process, right and so my process, I said, well, what's the process I can use to follow that, or to accomplish that goal that that I can do every day or every week that will guarantee that I'll hit the goal and so it was just simple math at that point, right? I had 500 videos on the channel so I needed about 1500 more I wanted to do this in about roughly two years. So I said, Okay, if I do 15 videos a week, so if I do two videos a day and three on Sunday, and I do this for two years, then I will hit that goal, guaranteed, there's no question, there's no doubt there so And if I hit that goal, 99% chance, I'll hit that aspiration so that's what I did and it didn't even take half that long I think I ended up creating it in within, when I create the next 500 videos, probably in six months or so whatever it ended up being, I hit the 100,000 mark and then went beyond that so the whole idea behind this is just that, you know, every single one of those things, that that we set as a goal those are just aspirations for the most part, because it is it is just pointless in my mind, to set a goal for something that you do not have direct control of you don't have direct control over your revenue, but you do have direct control over things that will help you to grow your revenue, or to you know, and you know, the same thing with even losing weight, right people like Oh, my, I want to lose 50 pounds, you can't lose 50 pounds. That's unless you chop off your leg. Like it that's so it's an aspiration so then from that aspiration, it's like, Okay, if you want to lose 50 pounds, what what goal could you create, that would 99% guarantee that you're going to lose 50 pounds? Well, you might have to do a little bit of math, you figure out okay, how many calories? You know, do I burn per day, approximately? Okay, and then, and then you know, how much deficit Do I need in order to, to, to drop a certain amount of weight? And then you say, Okay, well, in order to achieve this, maybe you you've run the numbers and you say, all I need to do is eat 1800 calories a day, every single day and run two miles a day or do 30 minutes of cardio, whatever it is and if I do that for 12 weeks, I'll lose 50 pounds or whatever it ends up being right and then now you've got an actual goal that you can achieve and you've got a process for that now on a daily basic that's what I do I eat this I do that and so to me, this is the only logical and analytical like sensical way to do goal setting because all the ridiculous stuff and I've been to seminars where they're like you know dream write on your on your paper what, what, what do you what color do you want your yacht to be? And it's like, what you what is your five year goal What is your you know, your one year goal and it's like think big, and it's just it's a bunch of BS because you don't have direct control over that stuff so

Josh: see, and I love the way you you explain it that actually resonated with me a lot just because I mean having as the aspiration and you have the goal to get to that aspiration that just makes so much more sense, because you really can't control it, people would argue, oh, you can control that you make a million dollars, right? Like, you can absolutely control that but you cannot control other people and have them give you the money. It's not a 100% guarantee but you can 100% guarantee that you're going to make 100 sales calls every single month right and I love that absolutely love that.

John: Yeah, you can influence it that's like the aspirations you can influence like you You can influence that you can make a million dollars in a year, but you can't. It's not in your direct power control, right. But there are a lot of things that, you know, for instance, you can even break it down to a product level. I mean, you could say, well, you know, if I make $100 per sale, how many sales? Do I need to make a million dollars and you still can't guarantee sales? But you can say, Okay, well, what are the things that I do that, that create sales, and you can look at the probability, the statistics of it, and you can say, Well, every time if I make if I, if I have 100, leads, I I make, you know, $500 worth of sales for every 100 leads that I have, okay, and now you can start to get to a point where, where you can finally you have to trace it all the way down to what is the thing that you control, because you might not even be able to control where they get 100 leads, but maybe it's, it's every podcast episode that you put out, or every YouTube video that you make, or every blog post that you make, right, you get a certain number of leads on average, or traffic or something like that and so now you can quantified all the way down to the point where you can set a real goal and say, well, I need to do this and maybe it's a combination, it might be if I do five YouTube videos a week, and, and two blog posts, and you know, three podcast episodes, then then that will be enough that statistically, I will have this many customers and statistically, I'll have this much money, and that will lead to that revenue goal so you're influencing it all along the way but you're, you're you're not in control, until you hit the point where it's something that basically, the way I define it as, as you have direct control over something, it means that you have something that you can do that absolutely guarantees the result if it's not absolutely, for example, I can control if my goal is to walk to my door and open it I have direct control over that 100% of the time that I attempt it, I will do it, it's within my power but but so many things that are are beyond our power that we think are within our power, and we're fooling ourselves.

Josh: Yeah, and I think it's it's really about that brutal honesty of of Okay that doesn't mean you have to make small goals, you could say, Oh, I'm going to make $100 million in one year, go for it. But you're saying make sure you've got the action steps to back it up that can feed that that goal, that aspiration right so wow yeah love, love that idea so I hope everybody's listening to this, as you know, you know, this is coming out earlier in the year. Everybody's always doing their goals, their you know, what have you right, but if you can write it down this way, I think so many more people are going to realize it's not as hard as they think to accomplish their goals. So a question I have for you, though, John, sometimes, and money is actually a really good example of this when somebody says, Hey, I want to make a million dollars 99% of the time, they don't know which activities are the ones that are going to be the ones that provide that results in alignment that they can guarantee you're going to provide that result. So how do you help them to navigate that?

John: So there's, there's two things that I would say. So one, one is what I call my, my golden rule of business, right? This is, it's so simple, which is this is that the secret to business is find something that works and do it over and over and over again right? And so, you know, when you set a goal like that, like I want to make a million dollars, right? The answer is really like, Well, is there something that's making you money? Can you just repeat that over and over and over again, I know that sounds really, really simplistic, but but that's, that's at the kind of simpler level but I think the more relevant thing that's going to apply to more people in regards to this is it's what I call the fog of war, right? So if you've ever played like World of Warcraft or not, we're not world Warcraft, Warcraft, or Starcraft, one of the Age of Empires, any of those games where it's like a combat real time thing and you've got this, this, this map, and you can't see all of the map, right? You can't see where the enemies are but as you start to explore the map, then you can see it like that Fog of War disappears, and you can see further out right, but you can't see you can only see so far, right? And so, you know, I had this one guy that that emailed me for coaching he was like, you know, Gary, I want to make $30,000 a month he's like Gary Vaynerchuk said that I can make $30,000 a month and I was like, Well, how, how are you going to do it? He's like, that's why I want to hire you for coaching is I want you to tell me, and I said, Do you see any way for you to do it? Do you have any? He's like, No, I don't. That's like what I want you to. I'm like, I can't help you because I can help you to make $100 a month. So why don't want to make $100 a month? I want to make 30,000. I said, Okay, how are you going to make $30,000 a month if you can't even see it right? You don't even see it, it's not even possible in your mind you have this, right? So, so the thing is, okay, you know, as far as like making getting, let's say, we want to get to a million dollars a year, you have to start off with something like $100 a month, and from $100 a month, you can look over that hill and you can see, you can say, Well, if I can make $100 a month, can I see a way to make $1,000 a month absolutely you're taxing what you're doing to make $100 a month? I can see that right and now you're making 1000 bucks a month now, can you look from the top of that hill and see a way to make maybe $10,000 a month? Yeah, coz if you can do 1000, you could you could do 10,000, right? And then so on, you know, at that $10,000 Hill, can you look over that maybe Can you see maybe you won't be able to see $100,000 a month, maybe that's too big of a leap to go from 10 to 100 but could you see from going going from 10 to 50 right, and, and maybe from 50 to 100 and there, you're at your million dollar per year mark but the key is that, you know, and again, it works with the same thing with the goal setting is that if you can't see a way to do something, you can't do it and it's so so many people are trying to figure out how they're going to get from A to B and they can't even see the path and so it's like, well, maybe you need to, instead of focusing to get to a to b, maybe you need to get to a sub one and from a sub one, go to a sub two and then finally, at some point, you'll be able to see B over there and it won't be so far and you're like oh yeah, if I just build this bridge, I'll get to be I'm almost already there right? And so that's that's kind of how I look at it is this this whole fog of war? It's like, you just just don't look so far ahead. Instead, say, okay, what's the next milestone that I can get you that I can see right now and you can look at your whole business, you can divide it up, and you can say, you know, I had one guy, I was coaching, and he had this, this, this business where he was creating books and selling them on Kindle. Okay? And he was like, he's like, I need your help I'm, I've got five books out there and I'm, I'm only making like 1000 bucks a month and that's not a business, I want to make a lot more than that and, and so so I said, Well, okay, well, your books are each making 200 bucks a month? And he said, yeah. And he said, but what do I need to do? I need to obviously start a different kind of business, or I need to do something different, because they're only making 200 bucks a month and I was like, wait a minute. I was like, Do you not see the answer here? Like this is? To me, it was I was like, why don't you just make a whole bunch more books? Like if you if you have five books, and you get 1000 bucks a month? Well, why don't you make 50 bucks and get 10,000? Just It's that simple and and what I tell him too is what will happen along that path? Right? Because see, that's because he was trying to get too far. He was like, Oh, well, how am I gonna get to $100,000? Well, I don't know but there's a clear path to get to $10,000 a month, it was clear, it was very, very clear. Like if he does that, it's almost guaranteed that he's going to get that result. So get there and then let's see, you know what, we're the hill and what what happened when he started doing that was he start producing all these books, he figured out a system for He's like, Well, I have to print them a lot faster so he had to hire some people. And he was starting to put out books like one a week instead of one a month. He got to that. And then when he got to 50 he didn't make he didn't make $10,000 a month, he made like 30,000 or $40,000 a month and the reason why was because there were some outliers in there. Right? So, you know, an average each book was doing $200 a month, but there was one book that was doing $5,000 a month and that's gonna happen when when you when you do something like that. So that's why it's like, you just have to look at how do I get to the next hill because when you get to that next hill, then you can see over that hill, and you can see where the next step is, if you try to like, you know, if you're just starting out, you're like, Oh, I want to have a million dollar business. Now maybe someone who's who's really experienced as an entrepreneur who's done this a bunch of times, they can already see that they can see, Oh, I know how to get to a million dollar business like that right? You know, yeah, there's, there's people like that. But if you're just starting out, you got to you got to earn your way up, because you can't, it comes down to those limiting beliefs you can't do what you can't envision what you can't see if you can't see it. It's not possible.

Josh: Yeah, and I absolutely love that because your and in your context, right, the aspiration can be a million dollar business I'd like to do that in a year's time but right now, I can only see a $1,000 a month, right? I can only see 1000 a month. Let me let me run towards that as fast as possible hit that I can see me taxing that effort and getting to $10,000 a month I can that $2 million. I love that absolutely love that. I think the number one problem that people have is that they set big goals but they don't set big plans and the map isn't there and I was a gamer a lot growing up so I understand the fog of war concept and I love that idea because it's like you can't you can't see the path you can't see the map until that is revealed to you so I hope everybody boluses interview has thought about that heavily you know and what if maybe the goals they just set in January need to become aspirations they need to create real tangible goals moving forward so two questions for you, John, before we sign off, the first one is where can people connect with you? And the Bulldog mindset?

John: Yeah. So best place is just go to they'll be a little pop up to ask if you want to take the Bulldog quiz to get your Bulldog score? Of course you do, because you want to know what your score is so just go in there 10 questions, take the quiz, and I'll send you some information in order to raise your Bulldog score, which is basically a reflection of your mental toughness and grit. That's what it really comes down to so Go check it out.

Josh: Absolutely love that so make sure you go check that out we'll link that in the show notes as well and my final question for you, John is, you know, we've covered a lot of different topics so what is the one takeaway you would hope that our audience would take away from this interview if you can leave them just one final parting piece of guidance?

John: Yeah, I would say that, kind of the overarching thing that we talked about, is just this idea of, of trusting the process, right? Because that's what this comes down to is and this has been kind of my guiding light in life is you have to learn in life to divorce the process from the results, because you're not in control results. In fact, in this crazy world that we're living in right now, it's really important to understand there's a lot of stuff in this world right now that you're not in control of, and worrying about stuff. I mean, this goes right back to Stephen Covey. Right Seven Habits of effective people where he talks about your sphere of influences and we've seemed to have forgotten this, this really key fundamental concept that he said about, not about, about worrying about your own sphere of influence, right? That's, that's the key is like, and so stop trying to control results, right? I learned this lesson from playing poker, you can't you don't have direct control, you have direct control over playing the best that you can with the hand that you have in the exact circumstance that you have so you have to be focused on that. In fact, there's this really great meme where it has Jason Phelps, or not Michael Phelps, right? I was mixing up the swimmer, right? Okay. And he's like, he's swimming, and he's looking at, you know, it forward at the End of the Lane, and the guy that's behind them, the second place guys looking at him right and, and it says something like, you know, winners focus on, on on their, on their goal and, and losers focus on winners, right? And, and the way that I interpret that is a little bit differently, I look at it as he just focus on doing what he needs to do. He's trusting the process, he doesn't, he's just, I'm swimming as fast as I can I don't care where I am, I don't care where the other people are, I'm just doing what I need to do, the results will come or they won't come right and that's what, what you have to do here and that's that's the key so when we're talking about setting goals, and making them achievable, things that you have direct control over, and all of that in when we're talking about happiness and setting goals that are our goals, that of who you become it all comes down to this this whole idea, which was it was expressed 1000’s of years ago in the in the Bhagavad Gita, which is that you are entitled to your labor, but not the fruits of your labor and it was such great wisdom because what it just basically means that it means focus on trusting the process don't worry about the results the results come or they don't but your job is just to do what you can do.